>>>>> "Norwell" == Norwell Louis Awson <nlawson@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> writes: Norwell> Guessing users passwords Use npasswd or passwd+ Norwell> Crack 4.1 with UFC is much faster blah.... in npassword try this password: blubird1. does it work for you? i'm not sure if I have to configure my npassword... but it appears that the checks for numbers, case and punctuation.. was done before a truncation (even if there is a truncation) ... so it's still possible to pick piss-poor passwords. Scott